Anyone else watching the votes coming in?
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Uggggh. With this new provisional ballot deal the republicans passed and all the absentee ballot use, why does it take so long just to count the freakin' votes? ![[?|]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_banghead.gif "Bang Head [?|]")
In Georgia: Atlanta, Athens, Augusta, Macon, Albany, and Savannah all favored Kerry, but the rural counties and some suburban counties pushed Bush into the lead. I got to hand it to Bush, in a country of 260 or so million people, he got 50.5 million to back him in 2000 and it looks like he increased that to 58 million or so this year. What a divided nation we are.
The pendulum of politics is always swinging, sometimes way out there before it comes back to center. Most of us are happy in the middle without much extremes. Most Republicans are not war hungry nazis; Democrats are no theiving purple heart recipients, traitors, nor advocates for communism. We shouldn't let partisan politics come between us or get us upset and down. This is a great country. Whatever the results, I have utmost faith in Americans to come together. Godspeed Bush.
In Georgia: Atlanta, Athens, Augusta, Macon, Albany, and Savannah all favored Kerry, but the rural counties and some suburban counties pushed Bush into the lead. I got to hand it to Bush, in a country of 260 or so million people, he got 50.5 million to back him in 2000 and it looks like he increased that to 58 million or so this year. What a divided nation we are.
The pendulum of politics is always swinging, sometimes way out there before it comes back to center. Most of us are happy in the middle without much extremes. Most Republicans are not war hungry nazis; Democrats are no theiving purple heart recipients, traitors, nor advocates for communism. We shouldn't let partisan politics come between us or get us upset and down. This is a great country. Whatever the results, I have utmost faith in Americans to come together. Godspeed Bush.
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I have a paid membership to the same raw data used by all the big news people and also campaigns themselves.
I noticed trouble for Kerry very early in the evening. However, there are some interesting changes for Bush as well and the whole package may change some plans by all involved.
I will tell you why I say this a little later because the info is so raw and takes a lot of time to decipher.
I noticed trouble for Kerry very early in the evening. However, there are some interesting changes for Bush as well and the whole package may change some plans by all involved.
I will tell you why I say this a little later because the info is so raw and takes a lot of time to decipher.
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That's kinda bizarre. I'm not so sure I care about exit polls and all.
Would it kill anyone to count all the votes? I know we're used to having a winner on election night. But with all the provitional ballots and absentee ballots, in such a close election it's just gonna take some time to count the votes. Nobody should be bulldozing their way into the white house or launching supreme court fights to stop counting. Just count the votes. Seems simple to me.
That's kinda bizarre. I'm not so sure I care about exit polls and all.
Would it kill anyone to count all the votes? I know we're used to having a winner on election night. But with all the provitional ballots and absentee ballots, in such a close election it's just gonna take some time to count the votes. Nobody should be bulldozing their way into the white house or launching supreme court fights to stop counting. Just count the votes. Seems simple to me.
I'm not speaking of exit polls, but rather, pinpoint voting down to small geographical areas and the suggestion of heavy republican support from areas deemed democrat leaning, particularly minority areas of heavy turnout and a republican switch.
I'm into hard fact, what actually happened, not bullshit that seems to get spewed so freely. I wrote off a poll in So. California months ago that showed a movement by minorities towards Bush, but I think we are seeing some factual truth of this in some areas that can be pinpointed to specific areas.
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What I find most interesting is the complete switch of party strongholds over the past 25 or so years. This is what will be interesting to watch, as the Republican Party is now clearly the workingman’s party beyond any depute.
Remember the days of the Democrat South, the Republican California, and the Republican NorthEast? We have absolutely proven a complete reversal, where the Republicans are mainstream and the Democrats are the social elite that was once held closely by the Republicans.
I am curious to see how this plays out in the parties given the absolutely unquestionable facts of this shift.
I was not being negative on Kerry but with Bush taking unexpected leads in minority areas it was obvious this race was over. One analyst said that people were voting against themselves but I think when we look at the longer term trends we can see the shifts over time and a lot more in play.
Interestingly, despite the tax issues, Kerry cleaned up with the rich vote, and despite job losses, Bush cleaned up with Middle America. People can throw propaganda all they want about issues but we are in a political changing climate and have just proven this.
Take D.C. where there were big Kerry wins in the wealthy and influential Northwest and west of 16th Street and an almost 50/50 mix in southeast where minorities are the norm. Likewise the same can be seen in counties in New Jersey, and the Kerry swipe through New York City and Long Island by 6.3 to 1. Go out west and the same is true again with big Kerry wins in coastal San Diego, San Francisco, and the list goes on and on.
For Bush we see big changes in minority support and an absolutely solid mainstream America lead.
So how will this play out? Bush has lost his power-player support but gained a bunch of others that were previously from the liberal sectors. Will this change some plans? Will we see a change in party priorities? I can’t wait to see.
And yes, congratulations to George Bush on a well-deserved victory.
Remember the days of the Democrat South, the Republican California, and the Republican NorthEast? We have absolutely proven a complete reversal, where the Republicans are mainstream and the Democrats are the social elite that was once held closely by the Republicans.
I am curious to see how this plays out in the parties given the absolutely unquestionable facts of this shift.
I was not being negative on Kerry but with Bush taking unexpected leads in minority areas it was obvious this race was over. One analyst said that people were voting against themselves but I think when we look at the longer term trends we can see the shifts over time and a lot more in play.
Interestingly, despite the tax issues, Kerry cleaned up with the rich vote, and despite job losses, Bush cleaned up with Middle America. People can throw propaganda all they want about issues but we are in a political changing climate and have just proven this.
Take D.C. where there were big Kerry wins in the wealthy and influential Northwest and west of 16th Street and an almost 50/50 mix in southeast where minorities are the norm. Likewise the same can be seen in counties in New Jersey, and the Kerry swipe through New York City and Long Island by 6.3 to 1. Go out west and the same is true again with big Kerry wins in coastal San Diego, San Francisco, and the list goes on and on.
For Bush we see big changes in minority support and an absolutely solid mainstream America lead.
So how will this play out? Bush has lost his power-player support but gained a bunch of others that were previously from the liberal sectors. Will this change some plans? Will we see a change in party priorities? I can’t wait to see.
And yes, congratulations to George Bush on a well-deserved victory.