Islamic group wants BMW plant incident investigated as hate crime

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Ok so for discussions sake what is a hate crime (I do know the legal definition)? I mean is not all crime involving violence to anyone a hate crime? Can you commit a hate crime against a white person? I just think a battery should be a battery, an assault an assault regardless who commits it or who the victim is (domestic viloence not included - different discussion). Just some out loud thinking...

GREER, S.C. - A Muslim man at the BMW plant in Greer told authorities a co-worker threatened to cut his throat, prompting a national Islamic group to ask the incident be investigated as a possible hate crime.

Abdulwahab Ahmed, 65, said a man approached him in a restroom at the plant and held a box cutter to his throat, according to a Spartanburg County sheriff's report.

The man, whose name was removed from the report, told Ahmed that he would kill him before making a slashing motion as he lifted the box cutter from Ahmed's neck, the report said.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations said Ahmed also claims other plant employees repeatedly made anti-Muslim comments, including a statement that Muslims "should all be killed."

"There have been a number of comments based on the alleged victims' religion," CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper said. "We call on authorities and the FBI to investigate this disturbing incident as a possible hate crime."

A message left for Ahmed at his home was not immediately returned Tuesday.

Authorities are not calling the incident a hate crime at this point, but are investigating, sheriff's spokesman Maj. Dan Johnson said.

FBI spokesman Tom O'Neill refused to say if federal agents are investigating.

BMW said the two men involved in the bathroom incident were employees of a plant subcontractor, were business partners in the past and had a long personal history.

"BMW security is cooperating with our subcontractor and the Sheriff's Department to ensure the continuing safe working environment of all personnel at the BMW plant," public relations manager Bobby Hitt said in a statement.


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I think (and this is just my opinion) the distinction between a hate crime and other crimes (especially violent crimes) is that a hate crime involves a, as the Supreme Court puts it, 'Suspect class.' And the Court, the fed, and many state and local governments have made it policy to 'protect' the suspect classes. I believe 'hate crime' statutes are a means of policy to say 'we are extremely adverse to crimes based on the fact that a particular citizen is a 'suspect class.' When the specific intent (or general intent, as the crime requires) is based solely on the fact that the individual / victim is a suspect class it calls upon something 'within human nature' to really feel that it is wrong. I mean, looking at criminal law as a general body of law, we (as Americans) seem to stick with the idea of culpability; that is, not guilty of a serious crime unless you had the intent to do it. "Hate crimes" seem to, at least legislatures would have us believe, have a motive or intent that is 'beyond reproach.'

I don't understand why the Islamic group is putting pressure...to me it seems to inflame the situation rather than try find out what happened and actually deal with the issues. eh....
 


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