Sign this petition to keep it legel... its a long shot but anything helps:
http://www.petitiononline.com/riaawar/
http://www.petitiononline.com/riaawar/
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Keep File-Sharing Legal. Fight RIAA
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Sharing copyrighted material is illegal. Libraries across the entire United States share millions upon millions of copyrighted material daily. How is what a library does any different from any one of us sharing files online?
Who runs libraries? Yep. You guessed it, the Government.
....I guess our hypocritical government can infringe on copyrights, but no one else is allowed to. "Do as I say, not as I do." Right?
Who runs libraries? Yep. You guessed it, the Government.
....I guess our hypocritical government can infringe on copyrights, but no one else is allowed to. "Do as I say, not as I do." Right?
Allowing Electronic Warfare measures, such as Denial of Service attacks on P2P servers is ridculous. Regardless of where you stand on sharing copyrighted material, EVERYONE should be against this. Why? Suppose they launch a legal DOS attack on a P2P server that is on the same ISP as me. It's possible that the attack will cause performance problems with the ISP's routers. If it is on a cable TV ISP, and the P2P server is on my street it will choke that local network segment. This potentially leads to an indirect attack on all users of that ISP!
mrferg said:
The thing that ticks me off, is that OUR government is going after it's citizens, and besides many of these 'song swappers' are just kids. It's a sad sad world we live in.![[:(]](/images/smilies/frown.png "Frown [:(]")
I hate this as much as you or Push.....but you need to put yourself in someone else's shoes. I think the producers and everyone busted their butts to make some of the stuff we love so much. I don't think the stars should get as much money as they do, though. I think the industry needs to get with the times. They need to provide the consumers with a less expensive way to download music directly from them. I'm sure a lot of people will go along with it just to be legit. I don't think the entertainment industry is putting enough effort forth to please the needs of its consumers. Furthermore, I take them sueing everyone as a spit in the face. They need to get with the times or deal with being victimized for being too bullheaded to change their archaic ways.
Just to clarify, here's the bad part of the bill:
Internet Warfare
The bill would allow copyright holders to block, disable or impair a P2P node suspected of distributing their copyrighted material without express permission.
It states that a copyright holder may not delete files from users' hard drives, but it limits the rights of users to sue should files be inadvertently deleted.
The bill does not specifically detail which tactics would be legal. P2P industry observers note that possibilities may include denial-of-service ( news - web sites) attacks caused by a flood of falsely named files; worms and viruses; or hijacking of domain names.
I agree with Awcrap above - "Two wrongs don't make a right"
Also, what about instances like when the RIAA screwed up at Penn State - they filed a suit against a professor who had an MP3 file of the same name as a popular song, but it was his own words and music. Suppose they launch a DOS or Domain Hijack and I am totally innocent?
Internet Warfare
The bill would allow copyright holders to block, disable or impair a P2P node suspected of distributing their copyrighted material without express permission.
It states that a copyright holder may not delete files from users' hard drives, but it limits the rights of users to sue should files be inadvertently deleted.
The bill does not specifically detail which tactics would be legal. P2P industry observers note that possibilities may include denial-of-service ( news - web sites) attacks caused by a flood of falsely named files; worms and viruses; or hijacking of domain names.
I agree with Awcrap above - "Two wrongs don't make a right"
Also, what about instances like when the RIAA screwed up at Penn State - they filed a suit against a professor who had an MP3 file of the same name as a popular song, but it was his own words and music. Suppose they launch a DOS or Domain Hijack and I am totally innocent?
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when an amateur took them, be sure they are not. furthermore me, as the downloading person, am legally not forced to check if i harm copyrights or not. law has to prove that i did something against the law on purpose and downloading something that is not obviously marked with the R or tm symbol i can not judge as illegal to be downloaded.
lots of car videos, let´s all of them that show camaro´s doing donuts, vipers racing neons or getaways in stockholm, are free...
You asked for it, where ever it is easier to get, was not the question![[hihi]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_hihi.gif "Hi Hi [hihi]")
(btw, you areof course right)
lots of car videos, let´s all of them that show camaro´s doing donuts, vipers racing neons or getaways in stockholm, are free...
You asked for it, where ever it is easier to get, was not the question
(btw, you areof course right)That's not exactly true... Prolog will just disable the modem that is receiving a DoS attack, so it does not effect others (as said in their error ticket log).
The only people causing the DoS attacks are the 500 pound 15 year old kids with no friends who go online acting tough and who think it's funny to kick people offline. But then they are the same ones who complain when their porn downloads a little slower -- becuase someone just like them is DoS'ing someone across the internet causing the internet to slow down that little bit.
Then there are the people who bitch about microsoft's security problems. Well, it does not matter what ANYONE does, there will never be a 100% secure computer unless it is not connected to any other computers. If you hate microsoft so much, install redhat 8.0 and install the updates every week that is released by their networks.
I use windows, i dont LIKE the problems it has, BUT considering it is as easy as can be...it's pretty damn solid. Linux might be solid but most people have no idea what even a Shell is.
The only people causing the DoS attacks are the 500 pound 15 year old kids with no friends who go online acting tough and who think it's funny to kick people offline. But then they are the same ones who complain when their porn downloads a little slower -- becuase someone just like them is DoS'ing someone across the internet causing the internet to slow down that little bit.
Then there are the people who bitch about microsoft's security problems. Well, it does not matter what ANYONE does, there will never be a 100% secure computer unless it is not connected to any other computers. If you hate microsoft so much, install redhat 8.0 and install the updates every week that is released by their networks.
I use windows, i dont LIKE the problems it has, BUT considering it is as easy as can be...it's pretty damn solid. Linux might be solid but most people have no idea what even a Shell is.
downloading and viewing copywrited material is perfectly legal so long as you own the original version of the program/song you are downloading. so by downloading it you are not commiting an offence unless you don't own the thing you are getting. however the person who origionally ripped the item is breaking the law. thats the argument against it however the reason this hasn't been shut down completely is that all the files are stored on seperate systems (peer 2 peer client share) rather than storing most info on a central server ( Like napster ) KAZZA will not be shut down as the creators of the program have done nothin leagally wrong. just because its used for free games,music and porn by everyone doesn't make them leagally responsible. its just like sueing microsoft because osama bin laden used a windows based PC to plan the terror attacks.