BMWdude said:
frolf said:
the facts? from an extreme leftist like michael moore? hardly. if his half-wit type jokes that bridge the gap from weak fact to strong fact are supposed to make me believe osama and bush are penpals then i don't know what to think.
The thing is, you cant trust everything people say. All of those intervies got edited, and i am sure they did a little editing to take what they wanted and leave out what might present an argument for the other party.
And the whole war issue is totally subjectional. Clinton didnt have a major attack against america, besides the terrorist attack on the USS Cole, and as expected all he did was rant and rave about how he would hunt them down, but never did.
Every president gets delt a different hand. Judge them only based on the way they handled their hand. You cant say Clinton would have done better if he had been president during these times with Bush, I mean this in a positive way...Clinton is a huge wusy. He can sit behind a desk, and balance a budget, but there is more to presidency than that.
Based on what Bush has been through this term, he has done extremely well. The economy IS getting better. Health care will always be a problem, its so expensive. Jobs have been overseas for decades...why is everyone whining about it now? It isnt up to Bush who gets to do what with their company. It will always be cheaper to manufactur things overseas...taxes etc influence their decision, but it doesnt make it.
I think most people have the wrong view on things. A lot of people have anger issues too, it seems like all the anti bush people are going mad, just by their attitudes, be mature about it at pahleeeeez.
Of course, some details we may never know are 100% true, but the movie is basically saying Bush Jr. is a bad president. America was better of with Clinton and thats a fact. And I don't want to hear excuses like Clinton was riding the dot com period. Bush could be riding the "hydrogen-powered-cars" period, but instead he is pouring money into some useless war.
And the whole war issue is totally subjectional. Clinton didnt have a major attack against america, besides the terrorist attack on the USS Cole, and as expected all he did was rant and rave about how he would hunt them down, but never did.
Every president gets delt a different hand. Judge them only based on the way they handled their hand. You cant say Clinton would have done better if he had been president during these times with Bush, I mean this in a positive way...Clinton is a huge wusy. He can sit behind a desk, and balance a budget, but there is more to presidency than that.
Based on what Bush has been through this term, he has done extremely well. The economy IS getting better. Health care will always be a problem, its so expensive. Jobs have been overseas for decades...why is everyone whining about it now? It isnt up to Bush who gets to do what with their company. It will always be cheaper to manufactur things overseas...taxes etc influence their decision, but it doesnt make it.
I think most people have the wrong view on things. A lot of people have anger issues too, it seems like all the anti bush people are going mad, just by their attitudes, be mature about it at pahleeeeez.