Lotus Elise

[Abdoman]

Trust me, there will be enough force made by a 1700lb object going 65 mph... plus the fact that the suspension will probably be rock-hard + shorter rubber, larger rims adding to the punch the car gives to the road. Those heavy cars you are reffering too have enough tire to gently touch the road... but not this babe.

I am not disagreeing that a bumpy road will give the Lotus problems, but cars like the Lotus are not made to drive off road or fast in bad road situations. I really don't think that 95% of the paved roads in the US will cause this car to fly off the road.

By the way, how about comparing the Lotus Elise to the Mustang Cobra R Here

As for the price, $40K, check out this link Lotus

 

[Kirby]

By the way, how about comparing the Lotus Elise to the Mustang Cobra R Here

Heh...Hehheh..Cool.....

 

[PuShAkOv]

How the hell does a Inline four 195HP engine has a red line 8400 rpm?

 

[brahtw8]

How the hell does a Inline four 195HP engine has a red line 8400 rpm?

Why does that surprise you?

Why would you think a Honda inline four would not be the kind of engine that would have such a high redline?

VTEC is part of the answer. Small displacement is another part of it.

 

[junglestylz]

Subaru has pushed over 250 hp with an inline four. Yes, they would have to put bumpers on it.

 

[epj3]

BMW has put out over 1,200 hp on a I4 engine...given it WAS turbocharged..but still.

 

[brahtw8]

Subaru has pushed over 250 hp with an inline four. Yes, they would have to put bumpers on it.

If you are talking about the engine in the WRX or STi, both are horizontally opposed fours (and turbocharged to boot), i.e. "flat" or "boxer" fours. The normally aspirated subaru boxer 2.5 liter four makes 165 hp. I don't know if Subaru has ever made an inline 4, but I believe they have made exclusively boxer engines for some time.

Honda gets 240 hp. out of 2.0 liters in the S2000. (Soon to be 2.2 liters).

The 1991-1996 NSX makes 270 hp at 7600 rpm, (8300 fuel cut-off), out of 3.0 liters.

As for the original statement of 195 hp and 8400 rpm, the reason the car makes 195 hp is precisely because it revs to 8400 rpm. If it only revved to 6000 rpm it would make around 140-145 hp.

Horsepower is simply a function of Torque and RPM. If you take two engines with the same amount of peak torque, the one that revs to a higher RPM will make the greater amount of horsepower.

 

[frolf]

yeah dude, the STi has 300bhp, and thats an inline 4. my friends mr-2 turbo runs almost 450 to the wheels (on 100 octane) and that is an inline 4, i think that one is only a 2.0 as well. redline is about 7k

 

[Wadula]

back to the topic. it was said that a big ass SUV corners faster on bad roads as the elise. the damping is weaker and together with the tires it allows more bumps to be "ironed" away. hm, why the heck does mercedes have ABC? and BMW EDC? and the big Land rovers active sway bars? to counter the gear hammer that makes the car role to the sides. that is caused by the weak suspension. every sports car should wear ballon tires after that theory. we are talking speeds by the way, that an SUV gets to it's limit, keep that in mind please. a soft suspension is good for everything, but not for cornering. not on flat surfaces and not in corners.

and at the end of the day, the elise is still a performance car of which everybody knows, at least those you intend to buy, how it behaves.

 

[Bear6360]

After looking at the pics some more i dont think rice will buy them because they tend to like old hondas and stuff like that.

Ricers won't like them as much as Hondas because:
1. The Elise is going to be fairly expensive. Most ricers try to get cheap cars and make them look cool.

2. Ricers don't have enough taste to buy a Lotus.

 

[Bear6360]

a soft suspension is good for everything, but not for cornering. not on flat surfaces and not in corners.

You should've just said what it's NOT good for.
I like the stiff suspension I have in my Z3. It makes the car feel more solid, and it makes me feel safer while driving it. I feel every bump in the road, but I can live with that.

 

[Bryan330i]

Exactly what I was stating. It is a nowhere argument.

True, but some jumped on the motorcycle example as proof of the weight factor. I was just trying to say that if anything, this justifies the weigth factor as an essential element.

 

[///M SPEED]

True, but some jumped on the motorcycle example as proof of the weight factor. I was just trying to say that if anything, this justifies the weigth factor as an essential element.

 

[junglestylz]

And here I am all alone thinking that the thing is still entirely to gaudy.