I need your help everyone its a girl relationship problem... I have to post it here..
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I didnt see the post before MyHarley edited but I can imagine what it may have consisted of.....good people get hurt all the time.....and then we become "something else"....not evil per say but cynical......but reality is what it is......and the strong ones move on and protect themselves against it happening again.
p.s. I dont think i would have found this board or even had a bimmer if i would have married that girl....oh well at least I have a beautiful son out of it....LOL
p.s. I dont think i would have found this board or even had a bimmer if i would have married that girl....oh well at least I have a beautiful son out of it....LOL
Justin, you're still in high school, but it gets so much better and easier when you turn 21.
The girls are more mature and you're more aware of what's going on. Unless you are going out with a girl on a date from step one, there are three main rules to being with ANY girl:
1.) Always act interested, but never like you need her.
2.) Never pay for her food - if she can get somebody else to pay for her to eat, don't let it be you. They enjoy running up the tab and then they feel guilty for eating too much.
3.) Always pay for her drinks - whether she's your friend, acquaintance, girlfriend, lover, whatever: drinks will loosen her up and make her better company, and will increase your chances of you know what.
And of course, always remember that you're the guy and you are supposed to be the strong one. When girls see weakness, they can't help but walk all over you. I hate to admit this, but this shit has happened to me before so I'm not speaking out of my ass.![[:(]](/images/smilies/frown.png "Frown [:(]")
The girls are more mature and you're more aware of what's going on. Unless you are going out with a girl on a date from step one, there are three main rules to being with ANY girl:
1.) Always act interested, but never like you need her.
2.) Never pay for her food - if she can get somebody else to pay for her to eat, don't let it be you. They enjoy running up the tab and then they feel guilty for eating too much.
3.) Always pay for her drinks - whether she's your friend, acquaintance, girlfriend, lover, whatever: drinks will loosen her up and make her better company, and will increase your chances of you know what.
And of course, always remember that you're the guy and you are supposed to be the strong one. When girls see weakness, they can't help but walk all over you. I hate to admit this, but this shit has happened to me before so I'm not speaking out of my ass.
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MrElussive said:
Justin, you're still in high school, but it gets so much better and easier when you turn 21.
The girls are more mature and you're more aware of what's going on. Unless you are going out with a girl on a date from step one, there are three main rules to being with ANY girl:
1.) Always act interested, but never like you need her.
2.) Never pay for her food - if she can get somebody else to pay for her to eat, don't let it be you. They enjoy running up the tab and then they feel guilty for eating too much.
3.) Always pay for her drinks - whether she's your friend, acquaintance, girlfriend, lover, whatever: drinks will loosen her up and make her better company, and will increase your chances of you know what.
And of course, always remember that you're the guy and you are supposed to be the strong one. When girls see weakness, they can't help but walk all over you. I hate to admit this, but this shit has happened to me before so I'm not speaking out of my ass.
The girls are more mature and you're more aware of what's going on. Unless you are going out with a girl on a date from step one, there are three main rules to being with ANY girl:
1.) Always act interested, but never like you need her.
2.) Never pay for her food - if she can get somebody else to pay for her to eat, don't let it be you. They enjoy running up the tab and then they feel guilty for eating too much.
3.) Always pay for her drinks - whether she's your friend, acquaintance, girlfriend, lover, whatever: drinks will loosen her up and make her better company, and will increase your chances of you know what.
And of course, always remember that you're the guy and you are supposed to be the strong one. When girls see weakness, they can't help but walk all over you. I hate to admit this, but this shit has happened to me before so I'm not speaking out of my ass.
Dude you the man. well said.....
Dr. Phill watch out!
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Hahaha, seen that one before. I think the problem with girls/women nowadays is that they just have NO love. They want to believe in love at first site and being in love and all that, but they're the ones who don't/can't truly believe in it. Every girl I know is just really insincere and they all prefer the one-night-stands to having an actual boyfriend who would treat them like a queen.
I really know what you're talking about - I'm sure it's much more prevalent where you life versus where I live. But, I have witnessed that, especially at college. What really gets me is when you are out in public, see some good looking girl, and she's with a guy who is either a complete dick to everyone, or treats her like crap. Never understood that, and could never bring myself down to treating people like that to catch a girl. I guess treating people like dick is a sign of confidence girls like, or something.
Dude you are so so so in love and there's nothing you can do about it except to wait. It will get better with time, and you'll know what it's like to be in love. I know our advice sounds wrong and almost impossible to take/follow, but at least some of us have been through the very same thing. Just give yourself time and if you find a new girl, move SIGNIFICANTLY faster. Women like to be swept off their feet otherwise they lose the "magic" of the moment.
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How To LOSE A GIRL Fast
Now THIS sounds like an interesting topic,
doesn't it?
Why would you want to know how to LOSE a girl?
Well, I'm going to propose a DANGEROUS IDEA.
I'm going to suggest that you are probably
already an EXPERT in LOSING a girl.
You might even be a "natural" at it.
Most guys are.
But the PROBLEM is that most guys don't
UNDERSTAND why they're so good at LOSING women.
In other words, they walk through the world
screwing up one situation after another, and never
realize JUST HOW GOOD they are at being BAD with
women.
And they don't realize that just by changing a
few key things they could change their level of
success DRAMATICALLY.
One great way to increase your success in life
is to start REALIZING what you're doing. Once you
actually understand what you're doing and the
results you're triggering, you can CHANGE.
So open your mind. Listen up.
TYPICAL THINGS MEN DO
As you've probably heard me say about a million
times, MEN ARE PREDICTABLE.
In fact, we're PAINFULLY predictable.
We all do basically the same things when we get
into common situations with women...and we don't
even realize it.
I call this the "Originality Paradox".
In our desire to be "original" and "unique", we
guys tend to do the SAME THINGS! Said differently,
while you're doing something that seems thoughtful
and original, the attractive woman on the other
end is thinking, "He's just like all the other
guys."
Ouch.
So why is being predictable so bad?
Look at this formula:
Predictable = BORING.
Boring = NO EMOTIONS.
No Emotions = NO ATTRACTION.
No Attraction = NO GETTIN' SHIZZY WITH THA NIZZY!
One of the VERY BEST ways to lose a girl is to
be PREDICTABLE.
Another huge mistake men make is GIVING AWAY
OUR POWER to women.
I'm not going to go into it, but the reality is
that women are NOT attracted to WEAK men. And I'm
not talking about muscles here.
If you act like a Wuss, you are shooting
yourself in the foot.
Here are a few examples of how we guys act
PREDICTABLE, give away our power, and make about
147 other huge mistakes with women we've just met:
1) Call Her All The Time
If you like someone, it's logical that you're
going to want to let them know, right?
Well, only if you like the idea of coming
across like a total Jack-Wuss. I just made that
up, by the way. Combination of Jackass and Wuss.
Not sure if I like it, but I'm going to go with
it.
Where was I?
Yeah, calling her all the time.
Calling all the time is usually triggered by
INSECURITY and NEEDINESS. It sounds like a good
idea, but it almost NEVER is.
This is a great way to lose a girl before you
even have her. We might even call this one "Have
Prevention".
2) Offer To Take Her Somewhere "Nice"
What do most guys do when they meet a girl that
they "really" like?
Well, they call her up, and they get into a
boring conversation about schools and families and
jobs and 100 other painfully boring things...and
when they finally realize that they've been on the
phone for an hour, they realize that they'd better
do SOMETHING soon...because she's starting to talk
about having to go wash her dog....
So what do they do?
They think to themselves, "Self, you'd better
get up some nerve and ask her out. Hey! Self! I
have a GREAT idea. Ask her to go out with you to a
REALLY NICE place. She'll be far more likely to
want to do that, and besides, then she'll know
that you REALLY like her...."
And what does this REALLY communicate?
Right, right.
That you have the confidence to just ask her to
spend time with you for NO REASON other than the
fact that you want to...and that you must not be
WORTH spending time with - without some kind of
"meal incentive".
Meal Incentive... lol... I crack myself up.
Well, this is one more example of something
that "sounds good" in the moment, but is BAD BAD
BAD for business.
3) Do "Thoughtful" Things From The Beginning
What's better than a nice, thoughtful guy
showing up at the door with flowers and candy for
the first date?
Well, to quote an old Saturday Night Live
episode, "Throwing an entire box of thumb tacks on
the floor, and rolling around in them naked".
Or maybe taking one of those...you know...
SERRATED KNIVES...yeah, that's it...and putting it
between your big toe and second toe and slicing
back and forth really fast...and then pouring...
you know...HOT SAUCE...yeah, that's it...on the
wound!
I hate it when that happens!
But we men do this kind of thing all the
time...because it sure sounds good in the moment.
By the way, don't try the thumb tack thing or
the hot sauce thing UNLESS you're considering
purchasing flowers and candy to bring to a first
date. In that case, please take these measures to
prevent yourself from acting on the uncontrollable
urges.
If you come on too strong, you appear just like
every other predictable Wussboy that has ever
tried to make himself look better by giving gifts
and food and favors in exchange for attention and
approval.
4) Tell Her How You "Feel" About Her Early On
This might be one of my favorites.
I'm starting to think that we guys must come
stock with a mechanism that actually compels us to
open our BIG FAT MOUTHS and screw things up with
only the BEST women.
I'll call this the "Feeling Confessor"
mechanism. It is triggered by strong feelings of
attraction and emotion toward an unusually
attractive woman.
I've talked to A LOT of attractive women in my
life. And they all have one similar experience to
share...
For some UNKNOWN and UNGODLY reason, men just
seem to LOVE telling SUPER HOT women how they FEEL
within the first couple of dates.
As you might realize, I get a lot of emails
from guys...
And one of the common emails I get goes a
little something like this:
"David, I met this unbelievably hot girl...she's
smart, interesting, successful...everything seemed
to be going well...so I decided to tell her how I
felt...and for some reason she said that she needs
some "space" and some "time to be alone"...I don't
get it...."
Again, when you do this you're making all kinds
of huge mistakes...and basically doing everything
you can do to LOSE her.
5) Keep Telling Her How You Feel When She Needs
Space
And as if the last example wasn't painful
enough, most guys usually like to use this final
"nail in the coffin" technique as well...
Here's the situation:
You've met a girl you really like. Maybe you've
gone out with her a few times. Doesn't matter.
You do all the things you can think of to SCREW
IT UP, and you finally succeed.
You prove to her that you just don't get it,
and you don't know how to handle a woman like her.
So she says, "I need some space" or "I need some
time to myself".
And what do most guys do?
Of course. They KEEP telling her how they feel.
And they do it in 100 annoying ways.
The thought that most guys have is, "If she
only understood how I REALLY FELT ABOUT HER, then
she would LOVE ME".
It's painful just typing the words.
So there you have it.
Part of the magic formula for losing a girl
fast. Interesting, isn't it?
But there's a much DEEPER message here.
The message is this:
If you don't understand the process of how to
make women feel ATTRACTION for you, including the
things to AVOID doing, then you're not going to
have success.
Not knowing the rules of a game makes it very
difficult (or impossible) to win.
And, unfortunately, we guys have a HUGE
disadvantage when it comes to women and dating...
We have emotional responses to situations that
take over our "thinking", and makes us do all the
wrong things.
We usually sabotage OURSELVES.
Well, the good news is that it does NOT have to
be this way. There is a BETTER way.
If you found this particular discussion
interesting, then you're probably ready to learn
the DEEPER secrets of how to be more successful
with women and dating.
If you're ready to STOP losing women faster
than you can meet them, then it's probably time
for you to step up and get yourself an education
about how to attract women and KEEP them
attracted.
And the best education in the world is my
Advanced Dating Techniques program. It's over 12
full hours of me teaching all of my very best
concepts.
This program will teach you everything from how
to overcome your fears of women to how to take
things to a "physical" level without running into
rejection. It is literally JAM PACKED with
HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of amazing step-by-step
techniques for overcoming all of your obstacles
and getting to the point in your life where you
have the kind of success that you've always wanted
with women.
Go check out the great free samples here:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/dydhome/AdvancedSeries/
And if you're reading this right now and you
haven't yet downloaded your copy of my online
eBook "Double Your Dating", I have something to
tell you...
My eBook is the foundation for everything that
I teach in these newsletters, and it's the
foundation for my Advanced Dating Techniques
Program.
Guys are surprised when they listen to the
Advanced Program because I don't just rehash
"Double Your Dating" and I talk about a few new
tricks.
The Advanced Program is almost ALL new stuff!
And you need to read "Double Your Dating" TOO,
because it contains a lot of valuable material
that sets the stage for everything else. It's
here, go download it now:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/dydhome/eBook/
I'll talk to you again soon.
Your Friend,
David D.
Now THIS sounds like an interesting topic,
doesn't it?
Why would you want to know how to LOSE a girl?
Well, I'm going to propose a DANGEROUS IDEA.
I'm going to suggest that you are probably
already an EXPERT in LOSING a girl.
You might even be a "natural" at it.
Most guys are.
But the PROBLEM is that most guys don't
UNDERSTAND why they're so good at LOSING women.
In other words, they walk through the world
screwing up one situation after another, and never
realize JUST HOW GOOD they are at being BAD with
women.
And they don't realize that just by changing a
few key things they could change their level of
success DRAMATICALLY.
One great way to increase your success in life
is to start REALIZING what you're doing. Once you
actually understand what you're doing and the
results you're triggering, you can CHANGE.
So open your mind. Listen up.
TYPICAL THINGS MEN DO
As you've probably heard me say about a million
times, MEN ARE PREDICTABLE.
In fact, we're PAINFULLY predictable.
We all do basically the same things when we get
into common situations with women...and we don't
even realize it.
I call this the "Originality Paradox".
In our desire to be "original" and "unique", we
guys tend to do the SAME THINGS! Said differently,
while you're doing something that seems thoughtful
and original, the attractive woman on the other
end is thinking, "He's just like all the other
guys."
Ouch.
So why is being predictable so bad?
Look at this formula:
Predictable = BORING.
Boring = NO EMOTIONS.
No Emotions = NO ATTRACTION.
No Attraction = NO GETTIN' SHIZZY WITH THA NIZZY!
One of the VERY BEST ways to lose a girl is to
be PREDICTABLE.
Another huge mistake men make is GIVING AWAY
OUR POWER to women.
I'm not going to go into it, but the reality is
that women are NOT attracted to WEAK men. And I'm
not talking about muscles here.
If you act like a Wuss, you are shooting
yourself in the foot.
Here are a few examples of how we guys act
PREDICTABLE, give away our power, and make about
147 other huge mistakes with women we've just met:
1) Call Her All The Time
If you like someone, it's logical that you're
going to want to let them know, right?
Well, only if you like the idea of coming
across like a total Jack-Wuss. I just made that
up, by the way. Combination of Jackass and Wuss.
Not sure if I like it, but I'm going to go with
it.
Where was I?
Yeah, calling her all the time.
Calling all the time is usually triggered by
INSECURITY and NEEDINESS. It sounds like a good
idea, but it almost NEVER is.
This is a great way to lose a girl before you
even have her. We might even call this one "Have
Prevention".
2) Offer To Take Her Somewhere "Nice"
What do most guys do when they meet a girl that
they "really" like?
Well, they call her up, and they get into a
boring conversation about schools and families and
jobs and 100 other painfully boring things...and
when they finally realize that they've been on the
phone for an hour, they realize that they'd better
do SOMETHING soon...because she's starting to talk
about having to go wash her dog....
So what do they do?
They think to themselves, "Self, you'd better
get up some nerve and ask her out. Hey! Self! I
have a GREAT idea. Ask her to go out with you to a
REALLY NICE place. She'll be far more likely to
want to do that, and besides, then she'll know
that you REALLY like her...."
And what does this REALLY communicate?
Right, right.
That you have the confidence to just ask her to
spend time with you for NO REASON other than the
fact that you want to...and that you must not be
WORTH spending time with - without some kind of
"meal incentive".
Meal Incentive... lol... I crack myself up.
Well, this is one more example of something
that "sounds good" in the moment, but is BAD BAD
BAD for business.
3) Do "Thoughtful" Things From The Beginning
What's better than a nice, thoughtful guy
showing up at the door with flowers and candy for
the first date?
Well, to quote an old Saturday Night Live
episode, "Throwing an entire box of thumb tacks on
the floor, and rolling around in them naked".
Or maybe taking one of those...you know...
SERRATED KNIVES...yeah, that's it...and putting it
between your big toe and second toe and slicing
back and forth really fast...and then pouring...
you know...HOT SAUCE...yeah, that's it...on the
wound!
I hate it when that happens!
But we men do this kind of thing all the
time...because it sure sounds good in the moment.
By the way, don't try the thumb tack thing or
the hot sauce thing UNLESS you're considering
purchasing flowers and candy to bring to a first
date. In that case, please take these measures to
prevent yourself from acting on the uncontrollable
urges.
If you come on too strong, you appear just like
every other predictable Wussboy that has ever
tried to make himself look better by giving gifts
and food and favors in exchange for attention and
approval.
4) Tell Her How You "Feel" About Her Early On
This might be one of my favorites.
I'm starting to think that we guys must come
stock with a mechanism that actually compels us to
open our BIG FAT MOUTHS and screw things up with
only the BEST women.
I'll call this the "Feeling Confessor"
mechanism. It is triggered by strong feelings of
attraction and emotion toward an unusually
attractive woman.
I've talked to A LOT of attractive women in my
life. And they all have one similar experience to
share...
For some UNKNOWN and UNGODLY reason, men just
seem to LOVE telling SUPER HOT women how they FEEL
within the first couple of dates.
As you might realize, I get a lot of emails
from guys...
And one of the common emails I get goes a
little something like this:
"David, I met this unbelievably hot girl...she's
smart, interesting, successful...everything seemed
to be going well...so I decided to tell her how I
felt...and for some reason she said that she needs
some "space" and some "time to be alone"...I don't
get it...."
Again, when you do this you're making all kinds
of huge mistakes...and basically doing everything
you can do to LOSE her.
5) Keep Telling Her How You Feel When She Needs
Space
And as if the last example wasn't painful
enough, most guys usually like to use this final
"nail in the coffin" technique as well...
Here's the situation:
You've met a girl you really like. Maybe you've
gone out with her a few times. Doesn't matter.
You do all the things you can think of to SCREW
IT UP, and you finally succeed.
You prove to her that you just don't get it,
and you don't know how to handle a woman like her.
So she says, "I need some space" or "I need some
time to myself".
And what do most guys do?
Of course. They KEEP telling her how they feel.
And they do it in 100 annoying ways.
The thought that most guys have is, "If she
only understood how I REALLY FELT ABOUT HER, then
she would LOVE ME".
It's painful just typing the words.
So there you have it.
Part of the magic formula for losing a girl
fast. Interesting, isn't it?
But there's a much DEEPER message here.
The message is this:
If you don't understand the process of how to
make women feel ATTRACTION for you, including the
things to AVOID doing, then you're not going to
have success.
Not knowing the rules of a game makes it very
difficult (or impossible) to win.
And, unfortunately, we guys have a HUGE
disadvantage when it comes to women and dating...
We have emotional responses to situations that
take over our "thinking", and makes us do all the
wrong things.
We usually sabotage OURSELVES.
Well, the good news is that it does NOT have to
be this way. There is a BETTER way.
If you found this particular discussion
interesting, then you're probably ready to learn
the DEEPER secrets of how to be more successful
with women and dating.
If you're ready to STOP losing women faster
than you can meet them, then it's probably time
for you to step up and get yourself an education
about how to attract women and KEEP them
attracted.
And the best education in the world is my
Advanced Dating Techniques program. It's over 12
full hours of me teaching all of my very best
concepts.
This program will teach you everything from how
to overcome your fears of women to how to take
things to a "physical" level without running into
rejection. It is literally JAM PACKED with
HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of amazing step-by-step
techniques for overcoming all of your obstacles
and getting to the point in your life where you
have the kind of success that you've always wanted
with women.
Go check out the great free samples here:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/dydhome/AdvancedSeries/
And if you're reading this right now and you
haven't yet downloaded your copy of my online
eBook "Double Your Dating", I have something to
tell you...
My eBook is the foundation for everything that
I teach in these newsletters, and it's the
foundation for my Advanced Dating Techniques
Program.
Guys are surprised when they listen to the
Advanced Program because I don't just rehash
"Double Your Dating" and I talk about a few new
tricks.
The Advanced Program is almost ALL new stuff!
And you need to read "Double Your Dating" TOO,
because it contains a lot of valuable material
that sets the stage for everything else. It's
here, go download it now:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/dydhome/eBook/
I'll talk to you again soon.
Your Friend,
David D.
I would like to attempt to pool some of the wisdom on this board, relating to this subject:
How do you act non-chalant, and yet demonstrate interest? How do you walk that fine line--not coming off as attached, but letting her know that you care?
Are metaphors and esoteric statements bad, good, iffy?
BTW, Lisha: Where do you find these guys?!?? I really thought it was a joke until I got to the end. Geez-a-Whiz. Rest assure there are some well-mannered ones out there....obviously not out where you are, but somewhere out there.
How do you act non-chalant, and yet demonstrate interest? How do you walk that fine line--not coming off as attached, but letting her know that you care?
Are metaphors and esoteric statements bad, good, iffy?
BTW, Lisha: Where do you find these guys?!?? I really thought it was a joke until I got to the end. Geez-a-Whiz. Rest assure there are some well-mannered ones out there....obviously not out where you are, but somewhere out there.
Lisha are you serious?!!! You know those were DEFINITELY NOT keepers...jeez....although "valet" parking could be considered a waste, i would like to consider the fact that whoever is doing the parking isnt exactly making a six figure check so i would use the valet for that reason alone.....a woman is definitely capable of walking...LOL...the other stuff is right on point though...
p.s. Damn Lisha 4inch HEELS??? Must be a beautiful sight.....calves of steel anyone?![[thumb]](/images/smilies/icon_smile_thumb.gif "Thumbs Up [thumb]")
p.s. Damn Lisha 4inch HEELS??? Must be a beautiful sight.....calves of steel anyone?
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I agree with Sean, I laughed at the things you said, Lisha. These are all basics that should be imprinted in men's brains from day one, but then again, that would only make things harder for those of us who already know what's up.
Sean, I think the key is to treat the girl as a friendly acquaintance. The times it always worked best for me were when I was just not trying at all, and I was just being myself. There's a guy for every girl and a girl for every guy (casually speaking)...just putting yourself out there and going to as many places as you can, and meeting as many people as you can will eventually land you someone. IMO, it is all up to the woman. If she likes you and wants you to make a move, she will let you know with gentle signals. Don't go out hoping to get laid or hoping to get a girl...let her come to you...timing and the universe will balance itself out in your favor on more than one occasion.
Personally, the problem I have is that most women around here just want one-night-stands...I want a girlfriend and the ones that I find as a potential just already have a boyfriend or something else going on, but I have no feelings for any of them, so I quickly move from one to the next (as opposed to what Justin did).
I think the key is not to give up, live your life, go out as much as possible and be yourself, and eventually you just find someone. Sitting at home and praying for an angel never got anybody anywhere.
Sean, I think the key is to treat the girl as a friendly acquaintance. The times it always worked best for me were when I was just not trying at all, and I was just being myself. There's a guy for every girl and a girl for every guy (casually speaking)...just putting yourself out there and going to as many places as you can, and meeting as many people as you can will eventually land you someone. IMO, it is all up to the woman. If she likes you and wants you to make a move, she will let you know with gentle signals. Don't go out hoping to get laid or hoping to get a girl...let her come to you...timing and the universe will balance itself out in your favor on more than one occasion.
Personally, the problem I have is that most women around here just want one-night-stands...I want a girlfriend and the ones that I find as a potential just already have a boyfriend or something else going on, but I have no feelings for any of them, so I quickly move from one to the next (as opposed to what Justin did).
I think the key is not to give up, live your life, go out as much as possible and be yourself, and eventually you just find someone. Sitting at home and praying for an angel never got anybody anywhere.